What does your own fake collection consist of? What dates and design combinations do you have?
Have you noticed any particular designs or year dates more typical in your area or noticed any particular spates of a certain coin cropping up time after time over a short space of time?
Post your comments accordingly.
Sunday, 1 November 2009
Recommended Read - Blogsite Special Offer
Like many of you, I've read up as much as possible on fake pound coins and scoured the internet for information. So far to date, the best reference I've come across is the following, which has been offered to any of you readers out there at a special price.
'The Cheat In Your Change', by Ken Peters, is an info-packed 24 page A5 booklet and (other than the Royal Mints own downloadable info) is, in my opinion, the best reference guide you can lay your hands on.
Normally priced at £3.80, this booklet is available for just £2.50 (including postage) and is available from Ken @ Envoy Publicity, 8 Kings Road, Biggin Hill, Kent, TN16 3XU.
If you decide to get a copy, please let Ken know its because you read about the offer on this website.
'The Cheat In Your Change', by Ken Peters, is an info-packed 24 page A5 booklet and (other than the Royal Mints own downloadable info) is, in my opinion, the best reference guide you can lay your hands on.
Normally priced at £3.80, this booklet is available for just £2.50 (including postage) and is available from Ken @ Envoy Publicity, 8 Kings Road, Biggin Hill, Kent, TN16 3XU.
If you decide to get a copy, please let Ken know its because you read about the offer on this website.
Warm Welcome
I'd like to extend a warm welcome to members of the UK Counterfeit Coin Club, who through their President, Mr Ken Peters, have been made aware of this website recently.
In response to Mr Peters, his members cannot post actual blogs on this site but are freely welcome to comment to any actual item, or alternatively contribute an item, which I can then post on this blog site accordingly.
Hope my style of information is to your liking.
In response to Mr Peters, his members cannot post actual blogs on this site but are freely welcome to comment to any actual item, or alternatively contribute an item, which I can then post on this blog site accordingly.
Hope my style of information is to your liking.
October 'Fake'Watch
Another month past and relatively quiet on the 'fake' front.
Got 3 during the month, these being a 3 Lions 2002, Dragon 2000 and an Ornamental Arms 2003, all of which I'd all seen before. On each on them, the detail on the coin itself is pretty good its just the edge lettering that lets it down.
Onwards for Novembers 'search'.
Got 3 during the month, these being a 3 Lions 2002, Dragon 2000 and an Ornamental Arms 2003, all of which I'd all seen before. On each on them, the detail on the coin itself is pretty good its just the edge lettering that lets it down.
Onwards for Novembers 'search'.
Sunday, 4 October 2009
Message to Loftybob
Loftybob,
Thanks for comments on 89 Irish Flax fake, I'm glad its a new type we can add to the 'mule' list.
Is there any chance you could give me a copy of your 52 mule list?
Thanks for comments on 89 Irish Flax fake, I'm glad its a new type we can add to the 'mule' list.
Is there any chance you could give me a copy of your 52 mule list?
My 'Collection' stats
In order of frequency, this represents my 'fake frequency';
Celtic Cross - Total 13 (2001 year date x 12, 2002 x 1)
Ornamental Arms - 8 (2003 x 5, 1989 x 1, 1998 x 1, 2002 x 1)
Three Lions - 7 (2002 x 4, 1997 x 2, 1995 x 1)
Forth Bridge - 4 (all 2004)
Welsh Dragon - 3 (2001 x 2, 2000 x 1)
Egyptian Arch - 3 (all 2006)
Scottish Thistle - 2 (1988 x 1, 1989 x 1)
Menai Bridge - 1 (2005)
Rampant Lion - 1 (1994)
Flax in Coronet - 1 (1989)
So taking in country design-by-design, the stats read;
Ireland - 17
UK - 8
England - 7
Scotland - 7
Wales - 4
And finally by year date, the results are;
2001 - 14
2002 - 6
2003 - 5
2004 - 4
1989 - 3
2006 - 3
1997 - 2
1988 - 1
1994 - 1
1995 - 1
1998 - 1
2000 - 1
2005 - 1
I'm not entirely sure what this really shows as 12 of my 43 fakes so far are Celtic Cross 2001 fakes, so my stats are slanted towards that particular coin anyway. However, in my 43 I have 18 different design/date combinations without taking into account edge inscriptions. (On that point all 3 of my Thistles and Rampant Lion have the 'Decus' rather than 'Nemo' inscription).
If any of my design/date mules are new to other people (such as the 89 Irish Flax), I'd be interested to hear about them.
Celtic Cross - Total 13 (2001 year date x 12, 2002 x 1)
Ornamental Arms - 8 (2003 x 5, 1989 x 1, 1998 x 1, 2002 x 1)
Three Lions - 7 (2002 x 4, 1997 x 2, 1995 x 1)
Forth Bridge - 4 (all 2004)
Welsh Dragon - 3 (2001 x 2, 2000 x 1)
Egyptian Arch - 3 (all 2006)
Scottish Thistle - 2 (1988 x 1, 1989 x 1)
Menai Bridge - 1 (2005)
Rampant Lion - 1 (1994)
Flax in Coronet - 1 (1989)
So taking in country design-by-design, the stats read;
Ireland - 17
UK - 8
England - 7
Scotland - 7
Wales - 4
And finally by year date, the results are;
2001 - 14
2002 - 6
2003 - 5
2004 - 4
1989 - 3
2006 - 3
1997 - 2
1988 - 1
1994 - 1
1995 - 1
1998 - 1
2000 - 1
2005 - 1
I'm not entirely sure what this really shows as 12 of my 43 fakes so far are Celtic Cross 2001 fakes, so my stats are slanted towards that particular coin anyway. However, in my 43 I have 18 different design/date combinations without taking into account edge inscriptions. (On that point all 3 of my Thistles and Rampant Lion have the 'Decus' rather than 'Nemo' inscription).
If any of my design/date mules are new to other people (such as the 89 Irish Flax), I'd be interested to hear about them.
Latest fake...Is it rare?
The latest fake to enter my collection was received last Friday in some loose change but its a design I hadn't seen before in fake collecting terms.
We all know that the Royal Arms, Celtic Cross and 3 Lions appears to be the most 'frequent' of fakes received, but I had yet to see on any of our fellow 'Counterfeit' websites an Irish flax fake.
The one I received was a very good copy of the Flax in Coronet design, but a reverse year date of 1989 (a year that should have been the Scottish Thistle). The edge inscription wasn't the best but wasn't the worst either that I've witnessed.
Has anyone out there received a similar one or heard about their existence? Do we need to start grading our fakes into common, rare and very rare?
We all know that the Royal Arms, Celtic Cross and 3 Lions appears to be the most 'frequent' of fakes received, but I had yet to see on any of our fellow 'Counterfeit' websites an Irish flax fake.
The one I received was a very good copy of the Flax in Coronet design, but a reverse year date of 1989 (a year that should have been the Scottish Thistle). The edge inscription wasn't the best but wasn't the worst either that I've witnessed.
Has anyone out there received a similar one or heard about their existence? Do we need to start grading our fakes into common, rare and very rare?
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