Loftybob,
Thanks for comments on 89 Irish Flax fake, I'm glad its a new type we can add to the 'mule' list.
Is there any chance you could give me a copy of your 52 mule list?
Sunday 4 October 2009
My 'Collection' stats
In order of frequency, this represents my 'fake frequency';
Celtic Cross - Total 13 (2001 year date x 12, 2002 x 1)
Ornamental Arms - 8 (2003 x 5, 1989 x 1, 1998 x 1, 2002 x 1)
Three Lions - 7 (2002 x 4, 1997 x 2, 1995 x 1)
Forth Bridge - 4 (all 2004)
Welsh Dragon - 3 (2001 x 2, 2000 x 1)
Egyptian Arch - 3 (all 2006)
Scottish Thistle - 2 (1988 x 1, 1989 x 1)
Menai Bridge - 1 (2005)
Rampant Lion - 1 (1994)
Flax in Coronet - 1 (1989)
So taking in country design-by-design, the stats read;
Ireland - 17
UK - 8
England - 7
Scotland - 7
Wales - 4
And finally by year date, the results are;
2001 - 14
2002 - 6
2003 - 5
2004 - 4
1989 - 3
2006 - 3
1997 - 2
1988 - 1
1994 - 1
1995 - 1
1998 - 1
2000 - 1
2005 - 1
I'm not entirely sure what this really shows as 12 of my 43 fakes so far are Celtic Cross 2001 fakes, so my stats are slanted towards that particular coin anyway. However, in my 43 I have 18 different design/date combinations without taking into account edge inscriptions. (On that point all 3 of my Thistles and Rampant Lion have the 'Decus' rather than 'Nemo' inscription).
If any of my design/date mules are new to other people (such as the 89 Irish Flax), I'd be interested to hear about them.
Celtic Cross - Total 13 (2001 year date x 12, 2002 x 1)
Ornamental Arms - 8 (2003 x 5, 1989 x 1, 1998 x 1, 2002 x 1)
Three Lions - 7 (2002 x 4, 1997 x 2, 1995 x 1)
Forth Bridge - 4 (all 2004)
Welsh Dragon - 3 (2001 x 2, 2000 x 1)
Egyptian Arch - 3 (all 2006)
Scottish Thistle - 2 (1988 x 1, 1989 x 1)
Menai Bridge - 1 (2005)
Rampant Lion - 1 (1994)
Flax in Coronet - 1 (1989)
So taking in country design-by-design, the stats read;
Ireland - 17
UK - 8
England - 7
Scotland - 7
Wales - 4
And finally by year date, the results are;
2001 - 14
2002 - 6
2003 - 5
2004 - 4
1989 - 3
2006 - 3
1997 - 2
1988 - 1
1994 - 1
1995 - 1
1998 - 1
2000 - 1
2005 - 1
I'm not entirely sure what this really shows as 12 of my 43 fakes so far are Celtic Cross 2001 fakes, so my stats are slanted towards that particular coin anyway. However, in my 43 I have 18 different design/date combinations without taking into account edge inscriptions. (On that point all 3 of my Thistles and Rampant Lion have the 'Decus' rather than 'Nemo' inscription).
If any of my design/date mules are new to other people (such as the 89 Irish Flax), I'd be interested to hear about them.
Latest fake...Is it rare?
The latest fake to enter my collection was received last Friday in some loose change but its a design I hadn't seen before in fake collecting terms.
We all know that the Royal Arms, Celtic Cross and 3 Lions appears to be the most 'frequent' of fakes received, but I had yet to see on any of our fellow 'Counterfeit' websites an Irish flax fake.
The one I received was a very good copy of the Flax in Coronet design, but a reverse year date of 1989 (a year that should have been the Scottish Thistle). The edge inscription wasn't the best but wasn't the worst either that I've witnessed.
Has anyone out there received a similar one or heard about their existence? Do we need to start grading our fakes into common, rare and very rare?
We all know that the Royal Arms, Celtic Cross and 3 Lions appears to be the most 'frequent' of fakes received, but I had yet to see on any of our fellow 'Counterfeit' websites an Irish flax fake.
The one I received was a very good copy of the Flax in Coronet design, but a reverse year date of 1989 (a year that should have been the Scottish Thistle). The edge inscription wasn't the best but wasn't the worst either that I've witnessed.
Has anyone out there received a similar one or heard about their existence? Do we need to start grading our fakes into common, rare and very rare?
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